Mr Maguire
Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:34 am
Paul, I just read your letter to the editor in the American Canyon Eagle... and I'll say it!
THANK YOU!!!!
THANK YOU!!!!
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 1:13 pm
I have a question for him...Didnt you pull out on that donation? If so, they dont need to say thanks...because you didnt donate money!........is this true or just another lie?
Mr. Maguire
Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 2:07 pm
Paul was originally going to donate $5k but when she wasn't forthcoming with the budget he only donated $500. And didn't receive a promised sign or anything else.
Puh-leeze
Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 10:16 pm
Zzzzzzz..... Ho-hum. Wha? Could it be AmCanIQof06 just spouting venom again without credibility or common sense coming to bear? Please, someone wake me when something new comes along.AmCan06 wrote:I......is this true or just another lie?
Sounds to me like Paul just saved $4500 that would have gone down a black hole of fiscal mismanagement. And he STILL probably donated $499 more than most.
I'll now wait for AmCan06 to tell me how many rolls of toilet paper $5000 could buy at Wal-Mart.
amcano6 here is your answer
Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:34 pm
This was Paul Maguire's April 25th response under the thread $5000 4th of July sponsor. AmCan 06 it is printed here for your information.
Reprinted from April 25th 2005
Thank you for your questions, although your tone is a bit antagonistic. It sounds like you read something and got a bit worked up. I understand, and let me clarify the Current events.
I share your concerns with the card room sponsoring a stage event at the fourth of July festival which is a family event with young children. The casino has sponsored other activities in the past, and has a long history of doing so. The prior owner, Bill Long, also sponsored events in the community. The card room has been here for over 25 years, and was here prior to the incorporation of American Canyon. It has been a sponsor for years of various activities.
What would or would not have been on the stage is irrelevant at this point however, and your information is old news and partially accurate.
There was a commitment to donate 5000.00 from me several weeks ago. That commitment was withdrawn and a new commitment of $500.00 was sent out.
The reason for the withdraw of the $5000.00 is several, but specifically, the ad hock 4th of July committee claimed that there was a need for over 40,000.00 in order to fund the event. This claim is unsubstantiated, as I later learned.
It was not clear that the City of American Canyon had budgeted and committed $14,000.00 for fireworks already, and that commitment was made public at a later date. Furthermore, as explained in the letter to the Committee Chairman , which was CC'ed to the City Clerk, the committee did not have a budget, could not produce a budget, and the need for funds for the items listed was in fact, in my view, excessive. For example, the chairmans email to me, sent after the withdraw letter, and talked about a need to rent chairs as one example.
The city has hundreds of chairs in the auditorium which can be used for free, and if you attended the wal mart planning commission meeting, as I did, you probably sat in one. This being a city sponsored event, the city could use their own chairs.
The committee claimed a need to pay for and hire additional security guards. However, that AC Police are reponsible for security at this event, and it would seem, that they do fine providing security. There may be some need but not $40,000.00 worth. IN my view, generally the police prefer NOT to have private security at events the police are already providing security for.
Finally, another point I could not get over, was that all of the booth fees have been raised this year, again providing funds for the event and the costs of the booths, and there is not any accountability or bids for the items that could be provided.
For these reasons and others, I withdrew my commitment, and recommitted to $500.00. Napa Valley Casino will not be sponsoring the stage, and I suspect, no one will for a price of $5000.00.
As to relocating, I have renewed my lease for an additional 5 years at that location. Should the city and the owner of the land I am on work a deal to redevelop it, the city planner has advised me that they would work with me to relocate within the city. Rick Hess, as an example, will be relocated the gravel and land scaping material yard from the north of AC road to highway 29 in order to develop Don Colcleasers old property, just across from Safeway. With that redevelopment, the city will keep an existing business in town, and provide over 40K sq feet of new commercial for new businesses, like the gym discussed on another thread.
The card room would not be much different in that regard.
As for the poker dealing school, it has a city business license and has been going for just about a year or so. We have trained several students who now work in card rooms around the state. A few are from the area and now work in our card room. Thus, the school has created jobs. What kinds of jobs? Great jobs. The average poker dealer in a California card room can make up to 40-80K per year, depending on the shift and the number of ongoing games.
With reference to expanding my current interests in the city, I own a few houses here, which is a matter of public record. I bought here because I think that AC has tremendous value, and upside. Perhaps you did too.
It is no secret that I am involved in real estate deals in the bay area and out of the bay area. That is mostly what I do. Would I do some in American Canyon- I would, absolutely. American Canyon, however, is getting saturated with Commercial for what the area can handle already in my view, and once Rick Hess finishes his project, and Napa Junction is completed(when and if Wal Mart goes or doesnt go), along with the new office going up, it will be tough to get much more absorbtion.
There already is difficulty here in finding tenants, and most builders will not move forward without a tenant in tow today, especially in a relatively small town like AC.
Otherwise, I am not sure what other interests I would want to expand in the city here, because I dont have any, other than those mentioned. I think your suspicion is unwarranted.
As for politics, if you want to call it that, in AC, I have interest yes. I see the council as more of an administrative body than a political forum. This city is more like a small business, with the budget of a small or medium size business, and most of the councils work has been to adminster to the best of their ability these funds in the best interest of the city. Further, they certainly create law and run the city. Personally, I think they have done pretty well with that for the vast majority of items.
A good majority of the decisions they have made I agree with. The supercenter approval was not one of them. But that is a issue for the courts now, and having attended arguments earlier this week at Napa Court, there should be a decision out soon on the injunction that was filed.
I hope this addresses all of your concerns, and that you can chill out now, knowing there will not be a big banner on the stage from my business-nor that their is a top secret hidden agenda in the works- there isn't.
With regards to Linda's post, apparently the chairman has not disclosed to the committee the letter sent over a week ago. I am sure the committee will be successful in their event. As pointed out to the Chairmen, at the time of my letter, with getting just 3 sponsors of $100.00 each per day, the committee would raise over 21,000.00 prior to the event.
I would suggest you would have WAY more credibility if you just say who you are. That way, we could all talk to one another and know who we are talking too. It is much more productive. But it is your choice.
So there you have it, first hand. Have a great weekend.[/b]
Reprinted from April 25th 2005
Thank you for your questions, although your tone is a bit antagonistic. It sounds like you read something and got a bit worked up. I understand, and let me clarify the Current events.
I share your concerns with the card room sponsoring a stage event at the fourth of July festival which is a family event with young children. The casino has sponsored other activities in the past, and has a long history of doing so. The prior owner, Bill Long, also sponsored events in the community. The card room has been here for over 25 years, and was here prior to the incorporation of American Canyon. It has been a sponsor for years of various activities.
What would or would not have been on the stage is irrelevant at this point however, and your information is old news and partially accurate.
There was a commitment to donate 5000.00 from me several weeks ago. That commitment was withdrawn and a new commitment of $500.00 was sent out.
The reason for the withdraw of the $5000.00 is several, but specifically, the ad hock 4th of July committee claimed that there was a need for over 40,000.00 in order to fund the event. This claim is unsubstantiated, as I later learned.
It was not clear that the City of American Canyon had budgeted and committed $14,000.00 for fireworks already, and that commitment was made public at a later date. Furthermore, as explained in the letter to the Committee Chairman , which was CC'ed to the City Clerk, the committee did not have a budget, could not produce a budget, and the need for funds for the items listed was in fact, in my view, excessive. For example, the chairmans email to me, sent after the withdraw letter, and talked about a need to rent chairs as one example.
The city has hundreds of chairs in the auditorium which can be used for free, and if you attended the wal mart planning commission meeting, as I did, you probably sat in one. This being a city sponsored event, the city could use their own chairs.
The committee claimed a need to pay for and hire additional security guards. However, that AC Police are reponsible for security at this event, and it would seem, that they do fine providing security. There may be some need but not $40,000.00 worth. IN my view, generally the police prefer NOT to have private security at events the police are already providing security for.
Finally, another point I could not get over, was that all of the booth fees have been raised this year, again providing funds for the event and the costs of the booths, and there is not any accountability or bids for the items that could be provided.
For these reasons and others, I withdrew my commitment, and recommitted to $500.00. Napa Valley Casino will not be sponsoring the stage, and I suspect, no one will for a price of $5000.00.
As to relocating, I have renewed my lease for an additional 5 years at that location. Should the city and the owner of the land I am on work a deal to redevelop it, the city planner has advised me that they would work with me to relocate within the city. Rick Hess, as an example, will be relocated the gravel and land scaping material yard from the north of AC road to highway 29 in order to develop Don Colcleasers old property, just across from Safeway. With that redevelopment, the city will keep an existing business in town, and provide over 40K sq feet of new commercial for new businesses, like the gym discussed on another thread.
The card room would not be much different in that regard.
As for the poker dealing school, it has a city business license and has been going for just about a year or so. We have trained several students who now work in card rooms around the state. A few are from the area and now work in our card room. Thus, the school has created jobs. What kinds of jobs? Great jobs. The average poker dealer in a California card room can make up to 40-80K per year, depending on the shift and the number of ongoing games.
With reference to expanding my current interests in the city, I own a few houses here, which is a matter of public record. I bought here because I think that AC has tremendous value, and upside. Perhaps you did too.
It is no secret that I am involved in real estate deals in the bay area and out of the bay area. That is mostly what I do. Would I do some in American Canyon- I would, absolutely. American Canyon, however, is getting saturated with Commercial for what the area can handle already in my view, and once Rick Hess finishes his project, and Napa Junction is completed(when and if Wal Mart goes or doesnt go), along with the new office going up, it will be tough to get much more absorbtion.
There already is difficulty here in finding tenants, and most builders will not move forward without a tenant in tow today, especially in a relatively small town like AC.
Otherwise, I am not sure what other interests I would want to expand in the city here, because I dont have any, other than those mentioned. I think your suspicion is unwarranted.
As for politics, if you want to call it that, in AC, I have interest yes. I see the council as more of an administrative body than a political forum. This city is more like a small business, with the budget of a small or medium size business, and most of the councils work has been to adminster to the best of their ability these funds in the best interest of the city. Further, they certainly create law and run the city. Personally, I think they have done pretty well with that for the vast majority of items.
A good majority of the decisions they have made I agree with. The supercenter approval was not one of them. But that is a issue for the courts now, and having attended arguments earlier this week at Napa Court, there should be a decision out soon on the injunction that was filed.
I hope this addresses all of your concerns, and that you can chill out now, knowing there will not be a big banner on the stage from my business-nor that their is a top secret hidden agenda in the works- there isn't.
With regards to Linda's post, apparently the chairman has not disclosed to the committee the letter sent over a week ago. I am sure the committee will be successful in their event. As pointed out to the Chairmen, at the time of my letter, with getting just 3 sponsors of $100.00 each per day, the committee would raise over 21,000.00 prior to the event.
I would suggest you would have WAY more credibility if you just say who you are. That way, we could all talk to one another and know who we are talking too. It is much more productive. But it is your choice.
So there you have it, first hand. Have a great weekend.[/b]
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 3:43 pm
Woah! i didnt know that a simple question would cause such an uproar! Wow...im amazed! This is actually kinda funny! ...i believe this is the first time all of you C.A.V.E people (Citizens Agains Virtualy Everything as Mr. Curry puts it) have all got together to "attack" me. I feel sooooo special! Ok, lets get this straight...i wasnt trying to start a fight. I was asking a simple question...thanks to you, Guest, you supplied me with some good information...thank you...as for MerryJester...Im gonna quote you
"And STILL probably (Key Word) donated $499 more than most"
Probably? PROABLY? HA! Wheres Paul at? he has been posting latly...where did he go?...NVM I SAID THAT...............GOD FORBID I START A CONVORSATION ON A FORUM!!!!!!!
Oh and Merryjester....to answer your Wal-Mart question...20408.16 to be exact!
Oh! and AmCanIQof06 says Merryjester can go to hell
"And STILL probably (Key Word) donated $499 more than most"
Probably? PROABLY? HA! Wheres Paul at? he has been posting latly...where did he go?...NVM I SAID THAT...............GOD FORBID I START A CONVORSATION ON A FORUM!!!!!!!
Oh and Merryjester....to answer your Wal-Mart question...20408.16 to be exact! Oh! and AmCanIQof06 says Merryjester can go to hell
LOL
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 7:59 pm
LOL...touche. All in good fun, eh?
Re: LOL
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:16 pm
Oh yeah!merryjester wrote:LOL...touche. All in good fun, eh?
Wheres Paul at
Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 10:48 pm
I am right here. 
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 9:40 am
Thanks for replying paul
AmCan06
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 12:54 pm
Your attacks on Paul Maguire are completely unfounded. As for the CAVE comment I always thought that Curry was the leader.
Paul is just trying to do some good. He, like you is allowed his opinion. And as for CAVE you are the one that is against the casino a business that has been here for over 20 years. Probably longer than you.
Maguire is a great guy and attempts to assist when others fall short. More people should be like him. Everybody needs a back-up in the event you can't perform an obligation. That is leadership ability. Not admitting you need help is weakness. Lighten up you are way to attacking. How about starting a productive thread for a change.
Paul is just trying to do some good. He, like you is allowed his opinion. And as for CAVE you are the one that is against the casino a business that has been here for over 20 years. Probably longer than you.
Maguire is a great guy and attempts to assist when others fall short. More people should be like him. Everybody needs a back-up in the event you can't perform an obligation. That is leadership ability. Not admitting you need help is weakness. Lighten up you are way to attacking. How about starting a productive thread for a change.
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 2:48 pm
Me Personaly? No i havent. Sorry! But my family, 25+ years.Paul is just trying to do some good. He, like you is allowed his opinion. And as for CAVE you are the one that is against the casino a business that has been here for over 20 years. Probably longer than you.
I dont have any imidiate problems agains the casino...i had a question...i asked if it was correct or not...people start acting as if i commited a some crime! the my intellegense if was questioned by someone...so i defended myself...IMO i did absoultly nothing wrong. And if you think eveyone in American Canyon should be like him...thats your oppinion. As for the CAVE people...i had a little chuckle with that article so i just HAD to give it a shot....i take it you dont like it.
well if you wish i wont say it anymore...im not on this bored to fight...again..i jsut asked a question...thats all.Thanks
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 5:57 pm
This was your best post yet on this forum. Productive, informative, humorous and lighthearted.
Thanks 06
I will look forward to more of your thoughts in the future.
Thanks 06
I will look forward to more of your thoughts in the future.
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 6:12 pm
Dude, love that dancing! That is just too funny. Not sure what you said that attacked me, but oh well.
Re: Thanks
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 9:30 pm
Sarcasm? its kinda hard to tell with just words...if it isnt...sorry for assuming!LaVigneLola wrote:This was your best post yet on this forum. Productive, informative, humorous and lighthearted.
Thanks 06
I will look forward to more of your thoughts in the future.
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 9:31 pm
Not trying to attack you. And Napolian is awesome!Paul Maguire wrote:Dude, love that dancing! That is just too funny. Not sure what you said that attacked me, but oh well.